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Jan 20, 2011 7:02:55 GMT -5
Post by grapevine on Jan 20, 2011 7:02:55 GMT -5
You say that offer was an assistant professor level, but was it a new assistant hire or someone with some experience? Not that it's not believable, but that seems high for a low-cost of living town.
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Jan 20, 2011 9:48:30 GMT -5
Post by my guess on Jan 20, 2011 9:48:30 GMT -5
I bet that 90k offer is for the advanced-assistant super-duper star who went to Duke. Considering that economists in my department (I'm in a interdisciplinary department) are regularly hired at 120k+, I'm glad to see sociologists salary inching upwards.
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Mar 9, 2011 14:03:35 GMT -5
Post by maracaibo on Mar 9, 2011 14:03:35 GMT -5
68k - 9 mo salary 3k moving expenses and paid trip to find housing RA first year 5k summer 1st year 2-2 course load, but 2 course release in the first 3 years Computer and office furniture
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Mar 16, 2011 9:03:43 GMT -5
Post by jealous on Mar 16, 2011 9:03:43 GMT -5
wow I'm jealous of all these high salaries...but i suspect that only people with really high salaries are posting (selection bias), so I'll post my lower salary
R2 Public state university ("high research activity" but not "very high" according to Carnegie classification) in a relatively low cost of living area in the south 3/3 with 1 course release the first semester 55k 9 month salary 2500 moving costs 2k computer equipment + whatever office furniture 1000/yr extra travel money for first 2 years half a TA each semester (TAs are split between two profs)
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Mar 16, 2011 9:07:23 GMT -5
Post by stratguy on Mar 16, 2011 9:07:23 GMT -5
No need to be jealous. My salary next year is going to $0! Or whatever I can pick up teaching at my local community college.
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Mar 16, 2011 17:54:37 GMT -5
Post by aaaaandmetoo on Mar 16, 2011 17:54:37 GMT -5
ditto to last comment!
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Mar 17, 2011 10:05:52 GMT -5
Post by Green on Mar 17, 2011 10:05:52 GMT -5
I envy you! I've been applying to local community colleges with no luck.
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Mar 17, 2011 11:36:18 GMT -5
Post by MeToo on Mar 17, 2011 11:36:18 GMT -5
wow I'm jealous of all these high salaries...but i suspect that only people with really high salaries are posting (selection bias), so I'll post my lower salary I will share too... Regional (NE) MA level University 4/4 teaching load $59,000 (9 month) with optional summer $700 year discretionary fund $1200 year travel (more $ is available) $1500 moving expenses laptop
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Mar 21, 2011 0:16:17 GMT -5
Post by happynow on Mar 21, 2011 0:16:17 GMT -5
I will share mine, post negotiations:
R1, small town with low cost of living 60k (10 month salary) 3500 moving expenses and paid trip to find housing 18k start-up 2-2 course load, but first year 1-1, plus 1 more course release before tenure RA 20 hours/week until tenure 1000 travel/year until tenure Computer and basic office furniture
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Mar 21, 2011 9:31:18 GMT -5
Post by qrevap on Mar 21, 2011 9:31:18 GMT -5
if anyone has a VAP offer, i'd totally appreciate hearing any info you'd feel comfortable sharing about the salary.
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Mar 21, 2011 11:41:02 GMT -5
Post by Betsy on Mar 21, 2011 11:41:02 GMT -5
Thanks to those who shared specific information re: the parameters of their offers! My question is this: for what exactly are you requesting and using "start up money"---this sounds good and helpful but I am trying to understand what people might have told a dean who made the offer so it sounds compelling. Thanks for your feedback!
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Mar 21, 2011 12:19:00 GMT -5
Post by CHA on Mar 21, 2011 12:19:00 GMT -5
Here are the specifics of an offer post-negotiations:
R1, small Midwestern town, low cost of living 65K salary 8K start up funds to be used in the 1st 3 years, includes office furniture, computer. 3.5K moving expenses, no paid trip to find housing 2 course release before tenure 2-2 teaching load
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Mar 21, 2011 14:54:25 GMT -5
Post by happynow on Mar 21, 2011 14:54:25 GMT -5
@betsy: I asked for start-up money for software (qual and quant), travel money for my research, peripherals for my provided computer, and to pay for research assistants in the summer months. People also use their start-up to buy nicer office furniture, have their office painted, buy a home computer, or secure an RA during the academic year if not already provided. The number varies widely; last year I was offered a position at a regional university and their standard start-up offer was $1500. I have seen numbers ranging from 8k-20k at R1s.
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Mar 21, 2011 15:04:51 GMT -5
Post by letuseatcake on Mar 21, 2011 15:04:51 GMT -5
other things for start up could include access to certain data, training in specialized methodology,trips to archive, special type of printer/scanner. also keep in mind that once you are faculty, professional association fees double in some cases so that could come out of there. lots of possibilities....
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Mar 22, 2011 9:23:53 GMT -5
Post by 2cents on Mar 22, 2011 9:23:53 GMT -5
Negotiating the offer (even in a tight market) is very important. The salary that you secure is the salary that all of your future raises will be based on and in many cases (especially now) you may not even get a cost of living increase beyond this base. Example: my University has not given faculty a raise in 3 years. During late '80s my Dad (also a prof) went 5 years without a cost of living adjustment. This = salary decrease. Even an extra $500 will make a huge difference over the life of your time in that job, which may be 30+ years. That said, salary and other funds (start up, travel, etc...) generally come from different sources/pot of money so do not feel like you have to "pick" one or the other. If you feel uncomfortable in negotiating for many things pick the top 3, and my 2 cents are to go for salary first.
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